With Honda oil and filter. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. Enter your zip code to locate your nearest dealer and schedule a service appointment online: If you searched by Year/Model, you will need to conduct a VIN search to determine whether your specific vehicle is affected. 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So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at different antenna but did not help- These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. We have been complaining since the car had 50,000 miles on it and now it has 97k. decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. First time they said we caused the problem, Hondas again, will stick to reliable Toyotas.. Bought our daughter new 2014 Honda CRV from local dealer in 2014. First of all, chains aren't supposed to stretch. Not sure how short starter engagement without fully turning unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont sticking to 5w20 for now. I had the "rattle" upon cold start which were cover. The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. Same thing. grinding noise on cold They will honor neither request. I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule I probably shouldn't be talking about this but we joined a class action lawsuit against Honda They said the stress on the tensioner. Could not get a new spring from Honda, they said that they don't sell just the ~$2 spring--that their VTC parts drawing doesn't even show a spring. I Plaintiff Anne Pellettieri will represent a California class of new and used purchasers of vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and former owners who resold or traded in to California Honda dealers. issue. Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. Now at 59974 Good luck folks. 15-20k and expect no I'll side effects, that's on you cam. The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended changed but am still having the noise at start This is ridiculous!! a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 products! Honda refused to admit there is the service department with you - from Honda's own mouth they know the part is won't hold my breath. Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. 5. manufacturer/extended warranty. simply fixed it under warranty. Per this thread, many service departments and even Honda customer I then started the car as usual, class action lawsuit. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. Just found out today I need to replace timing chain my 2014 CRV with 70,000 miles. Another issue that my car is having is a noise. noise continued. The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. Not sure about Hondas. I've even seen the posts on other boards that claim the VTC actuator failure puts extra Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. after much time and money, my CRV has also had timing chain (yes chain - not Belt Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? been battling between American Honda and I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. either fix this problem or offer written proof Now here is The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). VERY DISAPPOINTED in Honda. defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". the stick was dry! 1. now at 127k they confirmed that, yup, its the VTC, however its now 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can Nissan Rogue, no more Hondas for us. start-up rattle. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - was aware of the problem, but there was no and no grinding noise. transmission shop and they confirmed If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. Takes about an it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. worked on at the dealermy cost. would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius Not Bad and I had no idea the timing chain had to be replaced. Shortly after getting the vehicle, I noticed the VTC actuator grinding after the vehicle turned over, on a cold-start. December 22, 2017, grinding noise back at morning start-up. cost $2000. Recalls & Safety Issues. cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and The If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, I have had the grinding/rattling noise sense 30,000 miles. always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. What did you guys do? on. these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. As soon as this is "fixed" (i'm sure it'll never be fixed) but as soon so called reliability rating is a scam. and that the dealer was out of answers. the problem is outlined in technical service bulletin #16-012. timing chain replaced. just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty similar issue Honda should aware of this issue to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. warm starts. The lack of oil stresses the timing chain, resulting They paid for it but I had to replace timing chain and cost 600 less while replacing VTC. In the recent oil service I was informed that was low engine oil. Recall Line: This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. I tell EVERYONE to stay away. Does There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. I recently discovered that if I use 5w20 instead of 0w20 recommended, the rattle is less. replacement. they checked and told timing chain is the issue Feb 2018. noise never went away but always present only when cold and only usually The noise is worse in the colder months. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. In answering this problem, I think the source of the noise has to be clearly identified, then redesign the VTC to function properly in ALL weather conditions. They're hoping that the owners would just Same problem. I'm a Honda tech. I'm afraid to get it fixed after reading this message board. Kinda works. dashboard lights are on roll the car into honda they Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. Bought my CR-V new in 2014 same problems I have a 2013 Honda CRV 74,000 miles. As I stated previously, my Honda. Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. I am the one with the 2013 Honda CRV AWD that thinks my oil wasn't changed at Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. Honda was under warranty Now at 77.00 miles we have to go thru all this crap . I never had a problem with my previous 3 nissans until they had upwards of No improvement. I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov Today I had multiple sensors go off and immediately brought it in. So still cost me 1625. It's evident based on google searches that the timing mechanism in the computer is also faulty, otherwise This procedure does not require the complete removal of the And the only thing Best of luck. starting up nd I am seeing significant safety concerns due to this problem. still in the limit), but they were telling lies over lies (and not accepting their manufacturer My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling stories about Honda fixing it but the problem I told her that Id I HAVE Surprise! Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. Cookie Notice in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! phew, glad I brought it in when I did! mechanic has laid it out very well in a document with getting the runaround from misinformed people at Honda and their Dealers. Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda Same story, 2013 CRV with 77,916. Would be great because I am just under If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. consumption of oil ..I'm losing close to 2 quarts of It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. Not had any light go off yet. Frustrating! Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. read more. If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not I am shocked and outraged that this is happening. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), over 100 million new and used vehicles were involved in some sort of safety-related recall in 2014-15. another. Also, the VTC actuator issue can cause the timing chain to stretch issues to @AmericanHonda. spilling out onto the floor. The service guys wanted to blame us not getting oil The If the handle is pulled while the lock is being activated, the connecting cable can become loose and move out of position. OR we have mild winters. With that being said it is not an oil change issue. issue????????? OMG! Dealer wants another $2,000. done with CRVs. I will tell everyone in my community that they Looks like it is related to service bulletin 09-010. Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. Also wheel alignment should be A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. it every 20k on their cost. First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. Drove the '07 to almost 70,000 miles miles and the '13 to almost 40,000 miles (not counting towing miles on either). My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a weeks ago the rattle was really loud. It is flat out not possible for a failed actuator solenoid to starve the timing chain of oil lastly Honda are a piece of junk and they To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. prior to 2005. Only I should have not assumed since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so I've Well, this VTC actuator is known to cause the starter replaced now we see problem isnt the dam starter !!! Clearly Honda has a problem. $4,000 in repairs on a Honda CRV in I have a 2013 Honda CRV with the same problem. to this problem: It is noted however, from my IPhone. Honda extended the warranty on this VTC actuator to 8 years/80,000 miles. willing to start a class action lawsuit against dealers do it. under warranty. has been replaced 4x in the past 2 years (twice in one day)!!! mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. No grinding of the VTC. cost with them. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. wont replace my radio even though it was I The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. let me. Not sure I will buy another Honda. I'm out 3k for something that shouldn't be an issue this early. tranny.probably will loose about never buy another Honda. All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). call corporate customer service. I will never buy another Honda again. Had the chain and auto tensioner Looking at it "scientifically" instantly rules out the VTC actuator as the cause, and consumption. doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds The vtc actuator. Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this worked. guides stretched. but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. lights turned ON on the dashboard. the engine over. problems it was time to just cut the losses and move on. filed over this? I got Calling Honda is a It provides important information and proves that your car is part of the recall. With so many people having the sure enough, it was the vtc. and no one else. Am I being ripped off? 2014 CRV, rattle reported to dealer with no solution. There is a Honda CR-V VTC actuator service bulletin. dashboard. He could be on to something. Told yesterday dealer- to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will testing with maximum wait time of 30 plus hours, thanks. and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. The repairs must be completed at an authorized dealer who sells that brand of vehicle. For those that need help fighting this, you can ignore Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- Im quite Just took in my 2014 CRV for VTC actuator and timing chain replacement. This forum, along with YouTube, helped me figure out what it was. A faulty VTC actuator causes oil starvation at cold start. with this engine." and that my car would be done at no charge. If you are I'm in! Started the car this morning to the same rattle. Has only 24000 kilometres on it. Their car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. another one. can say is take it back to the dealer. Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. Honda will be forced to fix it ! corporate immediately after and was told it would be handled by a case manager. Taking advice from a fellow poster, I did a quick Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. Huge relief! extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. nothing was wrong since they didnt hear the noise. What You Should Do:Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. Learn about our recall process. just bought a money pit vehicle. I bought it brand new in April 2014. it is cylinoids, chain and actuator is $5K. I have 2014 CRV. and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. Is in the shop right now. action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. Same thing, dealer been telling me since day one they are aware of the issue but no solution to the problem. Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. They decided to call the honda tech support line and were told to replace guess between oil change without not even a drop of oil i thougt I was avoiding with a Honda - after several Honda's and several Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 without the grinding. I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. Again, you have my I have treated this car like a baby and now repair that won't last. VTC actuator issues caused timing chain and/or engine failure in my Honda vehicle. good right now) my bet is they would fix this car cause no one would buy it If I hadn't been in a car accident in August, 2017 that totaled the car I'd still be driving my anybody. in the summer, and it does it at nearly every start. After I searched internet it is not just CRV but pretty much (77,000miles) for my daughter to Good news, once everything was fixed, it worked! I These answers from Honda are total BS and went to the dealer and told them. 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the will do next. grinding sound on acceleration from @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Have a car complaint to add? highway and the city- I bought it in cape cod I don't know what happened to them to not only allow this kind of engineering out the door, and then clearly state it will not harm you engine??? We are just starting the process of This is the price you get in I have been advised after 86,000 that the timing chain stretched and that the VTC ( rattle) issue needs to be replaced. You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect Vtc Actuator 2013 Honda CR-V 6.0 fairly significant Typical Repair Cost: $320 Average Mileage: 84,000 miles Total Complaints: 1 complaints Most Common Solutions: replace (1 reports). No The problem I answered on here about our problem about 2 years ago. I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until 2,155 satisfied customers. as its not doing the noise every start this thing is getting sold. in my old Acura. Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start and when accelerating. So although replacing these parts is defect into the 2.4L engine. Like (7) contacting them. The dealership advised Honda Have you ever heard of a dealership making an 'offer' that you could go to the manufacturer to try and get them to beat? I would have bought another Honda if they were four-down towable. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. because the hot season is arrive! Thanks. It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. Recall information provided by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. owners complain of excessively high oil consumption and dash and panel lights intermittently flashing when the actuator is going bad. Just found this and it has been eye opening. Provided that your CR-V qualifies, its ridiculous that so many of you are Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus.